Friday, June 26, 2009

Welcome to the 8th century

A video has been posted to YouTube of a church in the U.S. performing an exorcism on a gay teenager. I'd like to comment as little as possible, except a few lines below.

People often say that humans are an intelligent species. I couldn't disagree more. Only SOME humans are intelligent. The rest are irrational psychos. I write the following with as much condescension and disgust as I possibly can; these people do not deserve to be called 'intelligent'.

The news article is here. Notice the line in the article that says this is not the first time that this particular church has done an exorcism. The video is below. In the name of Jeeza! In the name of Jeeza! In the name of Jeeza! The blood of Jeeza!


Pinkydead said...

I have say, I don't have a huge problem with this.

Homosexuality is something that most homosexuals have to come to terms with and accept as 'they way they are'. This can be a difficult process - especially as you are going against what society has always told you was 'right'.

This teenager obviously hasn't accepted his nature - and thought that going to this 'preacher' might help him. He is clearly beguiled by the whole nonsense - as we can see with his writhing.

The only bad part - if there is one, is that at some stage in the future - if he truly is homosexual - he is going to have to deal with that properly. Sure he'll be 'cured' for the moment - but not for long.

And this nonsense won't help that process.

Of course, I wouldn't be surprised, if there wasn't another video from a later point of the 'preacher' in an alley out the back counting money into the hand of the 'homosexual' for a really believable performance.

Admin said...

You DON'T have a problem with a group of people from a first world country, in 2009, chanting and surrounding a teenage boy on the floor, appealing to their imaginary friend to drive the imaginary spirits out of him? The point is not that the kid is a homosexual, it's the exorcism that made me post this. They look like a bunch of primitive and mindless cavemen who have been thrust into modern day, without a clue what is going on. It's embarrassing to my species.

FV said...

Some religious people are susceptible or may react favorably to exorcisms. Exorcism provides a cathartic experience that sometimes makes them snap out from mild to severe mental traumas (in my opinion, traumas derived/aggravated by their own religious beliefs). This is not new and definitely wasn’t invented by christians. All the ancient civilizations performed rituals for “liberating” the body and/or soul from the grip of an evil invisible force. What a Jesuit priest told me once was that exorcism was “real” (eg. demons actually exist), while it also had a positive psychological effect on the so-called possessed person, mainly by reassuring him/her that the evil in them was gone. So, let’s assume for a minute that exorcism is a form of psychological procedure for treating some mental illness.
If that argument was valid, my questions would be:
1) Why would homosexuality be considered a mental illness? It has been recognized that homosexuality is not a mental illness (sadly, it took quite a long time). However, continuous blame from society makes it difficult for gays brought up in a christian environment to accept their choice without remorse. Because of this it can be argued that people may develop behavioral problems at some point, which renders exorcism useless as it was religion what caused the problem in the first place.
2) Why would some theologian be fit to administer psychological treatment without medical supervision? Regardless of any profound expertise on demonic possession a priest may have, he did not go through medical school, he does not possess any formal degree in psychiatry and therefore should not attempt to stage hooky-poky rituals that can seriously harm people’s heads.
3) What is the implication/ethical review/liability if the “procedure” goes wrong? Unlike priests, any psychiatrist must respond to a council/ethical review conformed by other practitioners and are ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, even risking losing their licenses. Priests can do things that no other people would dare doing without fearing jail or a lawsuit.
4) If exorcism does work, why not administer this shock therapy to jesus-loving priests who are unfortunately “possessed” by evil, pedophiliac spirits? Are they not possessed/mentally ill even more so than guilt-ridden teenagers? Note that when the guilt-ridden teenager engages in consensual homosexual relations with people his/her age it would do no harm to anybody.
5) What are the long term effects of exorcism as mental treatment? Can it be said that people will not require periodical check-up exorcisms? It can be argued that exorcism as mental treatment would require a daily dose of fear-of-god pills (otherwise the imaginary evil would come back, possibly with a revenge), and that the “follow up therapy” would develop further trauma to the already distressed person.
6) And lastly, if exorcism IS a mental treatment yet it is not administered by medical practitioners, why is this practice not prosecuted by federal agencies on the basis of fraud, malpractice, endangering of human lives, etc? Psychiatrists sure have a say on this, maybe they could pledge to have christian/catholic congregations banned from doing such harmful therapies. Worst thing would be that enlightened “psychiatric” priests started using electroshocks to fry the crap out of evil spirits as a new scientifically based therapy.

The Malleus Malleficarum and all the official catholic texts on exorcism were not part of JC teachings, they were written by medieval psychopaths. Honestly I see no difference between a catholic exorcism and the way shamans rub live chickens onto sick persons and then have the chicken slaughtered for reading its entrails. Exorcism cannot only be seen as a source for bad Hollywood movies; it favors the continuation of ignorant, barbaric customs and potentially poses a hazard to gullible, easy to manipulate people.