Monday, October 26, 2009

Wait... the world is NOT ending in 2012?

According to this article, a NASA scientist says the world is not ending in 2012.

I'm so glad we give NASA those billions of dollars a year so that they can clear up stuff like this! But wait a minute? How do we know that THEY are not in on the conspiracy? What if NASA is engineering this whole thing? I've heard they're testing a new heavy-lift launch vehicle. What kind of doomsday-inducing payload could it be carrying? Is it true that the space station is up there to provide a refuge for the only people who were chosen to survive, and that they'll come back to Earth after we're all dead and re-colonise? Or is the space station really a giant magnet, which is pulling that rogue planet into Earth's orbit so that it can collide with us? Aren't they just trying to spread misinformation about what's really going to happen in order to prevent us from foiling their plans?

You know, even when I try, I can't write shit as loony as these idiots come up with. Check out this site that a visitor linked me to, trying to convince me of the coming doom. He wasn't sane. Be sure to click around some of the links on that site to get the full experience and hilarity.

Note the ending of the first article I linked to:

"People are very gullible," he added. "It a sad testimonial that you need NASA to tell you the world's not going to end."


Jim said...

I wish that only people who buy into this bullshit would disappear in 2012.

But then I would still have to wait three years through their lies.

Anonymous said...

I saw some comic some place with two mayans standin in front of a calendar one askin 'why does it end in 2012" an the other reply "I ran out of room on the stone'

Cypher said...

I tried to read some of that, I really did, but it hurts...
People who play the guru in times of concern, who leech of people's fears, are societal parasites. They are not sane, and the (actual) fact that all these (frankly, insane) 'facts' are being spread around the world is horrifying.
Perhaps my favourite line of what I read was something like:
'How can anyone know when the world will end?
An ancient people, the Mayans, seemed to think they knew.'
Just like the ancient Jews and Christians thought they knew how everything was made...
I'm pretty sure people are just seeing something that isn't there in the end of a calendar of a long-dead people.
No one fusses this much on December 31st, in fact there are huge parties all over the world. Isn't this basically the same?

Admin said...

I like the part when the guy brags about the research he put into his book. He uses bold, underline and repetition to proudly proclaim that he did 157 hours of research! My high school courses were about that length.

Jim said...

I particularly enjoy how we are going to die from meteors striking the Earth. And then From a rogue planet smashing into the Earth. And then the gravity sucking us into the center of the galaxy.

How the hell can we die three times?

I can't help myself but laugh at all of this. Especially when Mayans never said this would be the end of the world, just the end of a cycle. Like every four years is a leap year cycle.

Cypher said...

Not to mention, apart from the fact that we die three times, that each apocalypse is totally unpredictable in that time. Meteors of enough size to sunder an entire planet could't have been calculated so long ago, or even known about, since any experience would have, you know, sundered the world. I doubt that they even knew about rogue planets, since they are still pretty ambiguous now, and the fact that for us to be randomly sucked into the galaxy's centre would require some sort of graviton well (I make this up, of course, and so far they are still only theoretical particles), is enough to convince someone with only a mild grasp of physics and a bit of logic that the mayans didn't predict ANYTHING. I'm actually going to have a Happy We Didn't Die party on Dec. 21st or 23rd now. Wait, two dates, maybe it's like the roots of a parabola, and if I plot it... Yes, I have scientologifically proved that the world... will...
not bloody likely have any relation to this bullshit.

Charles said...

This isn't really the work of crazy people, but very human people. Crazy would be something abberant, against the norm. On the contrary, most people are not refined and educated. Education and foresight are, sad to say, more akin to insanity then this sort of activity. For evidence, I offer but two things. Firstly, this:

According to Isaac Asimov's Book of Facts (1979), an Assyrian clay tablet dating to approximately 2800 BC was unearthed bearing the words "Our earth is degenerate in these latter days. There are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end. Bribery and corruption are common." This is one of the earliest examples of the perception of moral decay in society being interpreted as a sign of the imminent end.

Secondly, while I can't find the statistics offhand, I've seen many, many science professors with the statistics of the % of Americans who don't believe in things like evolution/the dinosaurs/don't know why the stars shine/etc.

Cypher said...

Some thoughts, Charles:
If people have predicted the end of the world is imminent, and then we have unearthed their prophecies over 4000 years later, then they were obviously wrong. They may have predicted the downfall of their own society, but humanity and the Earth are very different, and the majority of 2012 claims are cosmological, not societal.
I found the quote you may be looking for, about percentages, here is a bit of the page
'Americans most likely to believe in only evolution are liberals (36 percent), those who rarely or never attend religious services (25 percent), and those with a college degree or higher (24 percent).

White evangelicals (77 percent), weekly churchgoers (74 percent) and conservatives (64 percent), are mostly likely to say God created humans in their present form.'
Just because people believe something doesn't mean it is true, and also since America is one of the largest strongholds of Christianity, this isn't even surprising.
And no, insanity is not something aberrant or against the norm, than is, well... abnormal.
Insanity is a poor state of mental health, and the effects on behaviour as a result, so no, education is not insanity. This is. No sane person could bend the truth like this and then actually believe what they are left with.
On another note, your point is a bit weak, because you offer beliefs as proof, instead of actual evidence. The Assyrian tablets holds the beleif of a people which means nothing, as the world is still here, and lack of belief in something does not constitute scientific evidence.
Pluto, for example, not a planet just because you feel it should be. Look at Admin's post on how science is not a democracy.

Jim said...

Oh, dear Charles. You really think that if a great percentage of people believe something, it must be true?

Did you know that 55% of Americans polled believe that the sun is not a star?

I'll repeat that, because it seems important. I know you can read, but I believe you are too ignorant to go back a few sentences to re-read what I wrote.

55% of Americans polled believe that our sun, the giant ball of hydrogen and helium, which has been burning for over 4 billion years, the greatest source of energy our planet most likely will ever know, is NOT a star.

Does the fact that over half the people polled don't believe it make it true? Of course not. It is a fact that our sun is a star.

Now, Cypher, the Admin and myself have stated repeatedly, along with every scientist ever, personal beliefs are not proof of anything.

Now proof, that works amazingly well as, wait for it...


I know I probably just blew your mind there, so take a few minutes, breathe deep (I know you probably usually breathe through your mouth only, but try to include your nose), and look up some facts.

Not just outdated religious babble.

Admin said...

Easy, Jim..... Even though Charles disagrees with a lot of what I write, and doesn't seem to approve of the level of harshness I use against religion (He has a religious girlfriend), I consider him to be a friend of the site. He's no Nathan.

I admit that I don't quite understand the point of his last post, and I'd like to invite him to explain more clearly.

By the way, Nathan gets a new post about his BS within the next 24 hours.

Jim said...

Now Charles, I do apologize if I offended you.

For some reason I was lost in my thoughts and thought you were Bible thumping like Nathan. Re-reading your comments, I understand that is not what you intended. Forgive me.

But I still maintain that some long-gone civilization claiming they saw the end coming is no proof that the end is coming. No matter how great their knowledge of the sciences were, it pales vastly in the knowledge we now hold.

Anonymous said...

Ha yea I seen one where two Mayans are standing there one says to the other why did you stop on 2012? The other replies I ran out of room the other one says laughing that ought to freak someone out someday. Lol