Friday, April 19, 2013

Jesus Never Said Anything About Homosexuality!

So the issue of gay marriage is in the news again, with headlines from the United States and New Zealand.  The comments are inevitably erupting into theological debates based on the Bible.  One of the most common things I see being argued is this notion of, "Jesus never said anything about homosexuality!"

Let's for a moment assume that it isn't totally ridiculous to argue modern law based on the fairy tale book.  And let's also assume that the character of Jesus is at the very least based on a real historical person.  Now, why do people think that every word ever uttered by this person is written in the Bible?  How many words did he say in his lifetime?  Just what's written in that book?  He didn't talk much then, did he?  Did he never ask, "Sir, how much is a shave?"  Did he never say, "Excuse me miss, I didn't notice I had stepped on your foot"?  Did he never say, "Man, I've really gotta take a leak!"  Was he like Silent Bob or something?

So the question now is, how do you know that Jesus didn't ever say, "I fucking hate those fags!  Burn 'em all and let dad sort them out!" Or that he didn't say, "I love queers.  No, you don't understand.  I mean, I really LOVE queers! *wink* *wink*"

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.  If this person really existed, his opinion on homosexuals is an unknown.  So shut the fuck up about it, please!


Anonymous said...

"Jesus Never Mentioned Homosexuality"

When gays have birthdays, they don't mention everything they don't want but say positively what they do want.
Likewise, Jesus didn't negatively list every sexual perversion He knew mankind would invent but positively stated that marriage involves only a man and a woman!

(Also Google or Yahoo "USA - from Puritans to Impure-itans.")

Jim said...

Well, it's a good thing that marriage wasn't invented by Jesus. Or Christians. Or Jews. Or any religion. Marriage originally had nothing to do with marriage.

Also, point me to the part of the Bible where Jesus specifically said anything about marriage.

Have fun with that.

Jim said...

"When gays have birthdays, they don't mention everything they don't want but say positively what they do want."

I still have no idea what the fuck this means. Admin, you mind helping me out here?

Admin said...

I too am pretty sure there isn't a Jesus quote specifically about marriage in the Bible. If there was, you'd think they'd trot it out more, but I've followed the debate and never heard it.

Sorry Jim, I don't know what that sentence means either.

Anonymous said...

In a big, black, dust-covered book (Matthew, chapter 19) a teacher talked about "male and female" being joined together as "one flesh." The teacher had a 5-letter name starting with "J" (no, not James and Julia), and could he have been talking about "marriage"? Naw, he was probably just talking about dancing partners or maybe a Siamese twin! You see how simple things can be if we just start thinking? (submitted by Mr. and Mrs. Jones - oops, Stan & Irene)

Admin said...

Wow Anonymous, tell me more about that big, black, dust-covered book.

So am I clear that you're countering my point that there is no biblical quote from Jesus about homosexuality by trotting out a passage in which the character does not mention homosexuality? Touche.

Jim said...

Stan and Irene, would you mind pointing me to the chapter and verse in your big, black, dust-covered book" where it says that marriage was created solely by, I'm assuming, Christians? Or where it says that all people on earth must obey things in your "big, black, dust-covered book" that they don't believe in? I wonder if this Jimmy fellow wanted to force his beliefs on everyone. Which is what you seem to be pushing for.

You see, Stan and Irene, not everyone in the world agrees with your "big, black, dust-covered book." And even people who do tend to agree with it don't take it literally. Because it was written roughly 2000 years ago by a group of men looking to consolidate power. And in order for the words in this "big, black, dust-covered book" to have any kind of power over anyone who doesn't subscribe to its dated nonsense, you'd have to make these religious views law. And that violates the 1st Amendment rights of every person in the United States (I'm assuming you're American. If you aren't, then by all means look into the laws of your respective nation. I'm assuming you don't live in a theocracy based on your want to legislate from a "big, black, dust-covered book.").